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marduk | Date: Monday, 2017-05-22, 7:21 AM | Message # 1 |
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| First of all: http://fhsw-europ.ucoz.de/forum/2-344-1
http://fhsw-europ.ucoz.de/forum/35-736-1
http://fhsw-europ.ucoz.de/forum/4-665-1
http://fhsw-europ.ucoz.de/forum/4-661-1
1. If there are only a few players you have to set small maps. If you would set a big map the few players would leave. That is why all small maps are permanently overplayed. We have never found a proper solution for that.
2. The most favourite maps chosen by the players are (number of votes): Prokhovovka (7) Alpenfestung (5) Op. Rattrap (5) Remagen (5) Battle of the Bulge (4) Berlin Outskirts (4) Rheinübung (4) Chartres (4) Sector 318 (4) Battle of Gela (3) Berlin Streets (3) Breakthrough (3) Battle for Ortona (3) Bombing the Reich (3) Counterattack (3) El Alamein (3) In the Hell of Bocage (3) Midway (3) Battle of Britain (2) Berlin 1945 (2) Bizerte (2) Battle of Edsons Ridge (2) Cretan Village (2) Kharkow winter (2) Liberation of Caen (2) Op. Springawakening (2)
Nearly all of those maps are tank/inf maps. This is why we mostly prefer tank/inf maps. Most favorite maps are those with tank/inf/planes (Prokhorovka, El Alamein, Breakthrough, Alpenfestung, Gela). But those are really a few and if you set them to often players will leave. Even Prokhorovka can kill the server this way.
3. Asking players ingame is a bad solution really. You mostly get inappropriate suggestions. We keep asking, but it mostly is not of any use (most suggested maps are Alpenfestung, El Alamein, Rattrap... see above). If a good map is suggested, we mostly set it. But at the end of the day it always is a small group who is deciding about the maps, also because most players remain silent (probably they just want to relax and play, not discuss).
Those issues could be discussed again.
Please discuss in this thread and not in the events thread or the server crash thread. I will delete further posts about this topic in those threads.
This is a gaming community. People come here to relax. If you start an argument you will get kicked.
Quid pro quo.
Marduk aka Postduk
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Born-1942 | Date: Monday, 2017-05-22, 2:07 PM | Message # 2 |
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| I agree and I think you are right, so which small maps would be defined?
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lrachoward | Date: Monday, 2017-05-22, 6:46 PM | Message # 3 |
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| A new cheat sheet would be nice since the currant one is outdated.
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Robert_von_Eberhahn | Date: Monday, 2017-05-22, 11:47 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Quote lrachoward ( ) A new cheat sheet would be nice since the currant one is outdated.
U mean anything similar like punkbuster ?!
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CanukAttak | Date: Tuesday, 2017-05-23, 10:25 AM | Message # 5 |
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| Is their a way to convert rtr and sw maps to fhsw? But big problem is we don't have mappers. So suck it up play the same thing lol
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Xenanab | Date: Tuesday, 2017-05-23, 9:36 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Guys first of all, please stop posting your opinion on this subject in 3 different threads and use this one here instead, since Marduk just opened it up for exactly this kind of discussion.
Quote lrachoward ( ) A new cheat sheet would be nice since the currant one is outdated. Quote Robert_von_Eberhahn ( ) U mean anything similar like punkbuster ?!
What he wanted to say is that we could use a new chart which depicts the minimum player count recommended for general map setting. Marduk posted a list but the problem is that it is a bit outdated.
What I suggest now is simply that all admins are invited to give their opinion on MINUMUM PLAYER COUNT FOR ALL MAPS.
Please open your levels folder and go down all maps that are in it and simply write done here what your minimum player count would be. Yes, mappack maps included of course. To keep it simple just give even numbers and try not to differentiate player numbers by 1 or 2 more players. That would make it easier in the end to collect the numbers and give a good overview.
And if you now say: "I'm not taking my free time for this fucking bullshit." Please just don't feel forced to do this now. But keep in mind that your opinion can help the admin team to distinguish suitable and non suitable maps for our player base. Also you can just use my list here and edit the player numbers. Saves tons of time.
With our FHSW mappack 1 there are currently 140 maps in your levels folder for FHSW 0.61. Yes of course some maps are suspected to be broken, but I've included them anyway. Don't forget that the following is just my opinion.
My list:
Now I put them in order:
All Admins, please share your own lists! Players too if they want.
Message edited by Xenanab - Tuesday, 2017-05-23, 9:48 PM |
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marduk | Date: Wednesday, 2017-05-24, 1:57 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Adak_race - 2 players Battle_of_Edson_s_Ridge - 2 players Batte_Of_Pavlov-1942 - 2 players
Alpenfestung-1945 - 4 players Bastogne-1944 - 4 players Chartres - 4 players Kharkov_Winter-1941 - 4 players Pegasus - 4 players Raseiniai - 4 players
Berlin-1945-Streets - 6 players Eagles_Nest-1945 - 6 players Eagles_Nest-1946 - 6 players El_Alamein - 6 players Midway - 6 player
Battle_Of_Foy - 8 players Bizerte-1943 - 8 players Cretan_Village - 8 players fht_dinant-1940 - 8 players Iron_Monster - 8 players Operation_Forager - 8 players Stalingrad_RedSquare - 8-16 players (depends on the version!)
Aberdeen - 10 players Battle_at_River_Don - 10 players Battle_Of_Britain - 10 players Battle_of_Gela-1943 - 10 players Karelia - 10 players Reichsbahn-1945 - 10 players Remagen - 10 players Rheinuebung_1941 - 10 players Sector318-1944 - 10 players The_Forgotten_Jungle - 10 players
Battle_Of_Orel-1943 - 12 players Fall_Weiss-1939 - 12 players Guadalcanal - 12 players Hungary_Forest-1945 - 12 players Kiew - 12 players
A_Day_of_Zitadelle - 14 players Apennines - 14 players Arctic_Convoy-1942 - 14 players Arnhem-1944 - 14 players Battle_Over_Hokkaido-1945 - 14 players Counterattack-1940 - 14 players Desert_Hill - 14 players Falaise_Pocket-1944 - 14 players Fall_Gelb-1940 - 14 players Gold_Beach-1944 - 14 players In_The_Hell_Of_Bocage-1944 - 14 players Kakazu_Ridge-1945 - 14 players Monte_Cassino-1944 - 14 players Ramelle_Neuville - 14 players
Battle_of_Angaur - 16 players Battle_of_Bougainville - 16 players Battle_Of_The_Bulge - 16 players Battle_Of_Valirisk-1943 - 16 players Berlin-1945-Outskirts - 16 players Eastern_Blitz-1939 - 16 players Fall_of_Singapore - 16 players fht_golf_hotel-1944 - 16 players fht_hong_kong-1941 - 16 players fht_operation_longcloth - 16 players fht_pasir_panjang-1942 - 16 players ilomantsi-1944 - 16 players Iwo_Jima - 16 players Kasserine_Pass-1943 - 16 players Kharkov_Outskirts-1943 - 16 players Liberation_Of_Caen - 16 player Nuenen-1944 - 16 players The_Attack_on-Carentan-1944 - 16 players the_great_pursuit - 16 players Tobruk - 16 players Transcarpathia-1944 - 16 players
Battle_for_ortona-1943 - 18 players Battle_Of_Makin - 18 players Battle_Of_Stalingrad - 18 players Berlin-1945 - 18 players Breakthough-1944 - 18 players Desert_Rose-1942 - 18 players fht_battle_of_mareth_line-1943 - 18 players fht_operation_dracula-1945 - 18 players fht_the_breaking_point-1940 - 18 players Gazala - 18 players Gazaps-1945 - 18 players Invasion_Of_The_Phillippines - 18 players Juno_Beach - 18 players KORSUN_POCKET - 18 players Meuse_River_Line-1944 - 18 players Operation_Nordwind-1944 - 18 players Prokhorovka-1943 - 18 players Saipan-1944 - 18 players Salerno - 18 players Siegfried_Line-1945 - 18 players Soletschnorgorsk-1941 - 18 players Stalingrad_urban_area-1942 - 18 players Suomussalmi-1939 - 18 players the_merville_battery - 18 players Todtenbruch-1944 - 18 players Way_to_Paris-1946 - 18 players Zveroboy - 18 players
Battle_of_Iwo_Jima - 20 players Battle_of_Leyte_Gulf - 20 players Battle_of_Leyte_Gulf_day2 - 20 players Bombing_The_Reich-1945 - 20 players Earned_in_Blood - 20 players fht_battle_of_kohima-1944 - 20 players Moscow_Outskirts-1941 - 20 players Operation_Goodwood-1944 - 20 players Operation_Rattrap - 20 players Seelow-Heights-1945 - 20 players Tunis-1943 - 20 players Wake - 20 players Wake_Night - 20 players
Crete-1941 - 22 players kushira - 22 players Operation_Hailstone - 22 players Ural_Mountains-1947 - 22 players Warsaw_Uprising - 22 players Westminster-1942 - 22 players
Adak_Island - 24 players Fall_of_Berlin-1945 - 24 players Naichi - 24 players Operation_Kikusui_day1 - 24 players Operation_Kikusui_day2 - 24 players Tarawa-1943 - 24 players The_Storm - 24 players Trois_Ponts-1944 - 24 players Westwall-1945 - 24 players
Alaksa-1948 - 26 players Manchuria-1945 - 26 players Midway-1942 - 26 players Operation_A - 26 players Operation_SpringAwakening - 26 players Operation_Varsity - 26 players Sand_Storm - 26 players Tulagi_island - 26 players
Operation_Coronet-1946 - 28 players pakfront - 28 players
Air_Raid_Alert_-Kure-1945 - 30 players Battle_of_Off_Malay - 30 players Monster_des_Stahles - 30 players Ocean_Town - 30 players Simusyu_To - 30 players
Omaha_Charlie-Sector-1944 - 34 players
This is a gaming community. People come here to relax. If you start an argument you will get kicked.
Quid pro quo.
Marduk aka Postduk
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E-3 | Date: Wednesday, 2017-05-24, 8:45 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Rattrap 20 players ? it can be played by 10 easy
Adak_race - 2 players ? that map is not very fun by 2
I'm an old bf1942 player I go far back all the way to 2002 and I also play cnc generals.
Message edited by E-3 - Wednesday, 2017-05-24, 8:47 PM |
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Xenanab | Date: Wednesday, 2017-05-24, 10:23 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Quote E-3 ( ) Rattrap 20 players ? it can be played by 10 easyAdak_race - 2 players ? that map is not very fun by 2 sad See, that's your opinion and exactly the reason this thread here exists. And it would be great if you could contribute your own list too!
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sonikglight | Date: Thursday, 2017-05-25, 6:54 AM | Message # 10 |
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| marduk, Great work really this is good stuff.
sonik9speed aka Winbean aka Winlite
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Born-1942 | Date: Thursday, 2017-05-25, 6:34 PM | Message # 11 |
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| I liked the list, many maps that are popular are from 2 to 14 players. I think it's good because the less popular maps will be played by a larger number of players.
I would only make the following modifications:
Adak_Island - 26 Berlin-1945-Outskirts - 20 Seelow-Heights-1945 - 20 Bombing_The_Reich-1945 - 30 Way_to_Paris-1946 - 30 Prokhorovka-1943 - 30
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